when you've got someone like marco rubio, a rising star in the party, paul ryan, saying we're ready to do a deal here, but the devil is in the details as they always say. democrats feel very emboldened on this issue, and they're going to sort of, you know, swing for the fences. they want full legal status, including citizenship for undocumented immigrants and it's not clear how far republicans will go to do that. >> scott, it is clear that they're listening because senator rubio had before only supported very small steps in the immigration reform debate, a series of small bills. he did not want a big sweeping bill. now he's sort of changing his tune a little bit saying, you know what, i might support that. i wanted to drive this home for california as well. carla, what role do you see california playing in this immigration debate? >> well, california is home to the largest number of undocumented immigrants. an estimated 3 million of them. this is a place where the dream act is going to be an issue. we've seen the organizing that's gone on on immigration. political pressure for presiden